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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moderately-confused pinay in deutschland - Pinoy Ambisyoso</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-4597</link>
		<dc:creator>moderately-confused pinay in deutschland - Pinoy Ambisyoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] referring these two unforgetable entries Eww naman talaga!lol Please please before you click on this one and that one.I&#8217;d suggest, you prepare a huge bucket near your &#62;puter table before clicking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] referring these two unforgetable entries Eww naman talaga!lol Please please before you click on this one and that one.I&#8217;d suggest, you prepare a huge bucket near your &gt;puter table before clicking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ice</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-3126</link>
		<dc:creator>ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sana natapos nyo at nakita ang name ng girl'tabaching-ching is zaido! kaya feeling nya nasa kalawakan siya at pumupuksa ng kakaibang putahe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sana natapos nyo at nakita ang name ng girl&#8217;tabaching-ching is zaido! kaya feeling nya nasa kalawakan siya at pumupuksa ng kakaibang putahe&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ice</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-3123</link>
		<dc:creator>ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uu nga ayaw ko eat ng bat na "taste like chicon" baka mamilipit din dila ko wawa esmi ko....hahah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uu nga ayaw ko eat ng bat na &#8220;taste like chicon&#8221; baka mamilipit din dila ko wawa esmi ko&#8230;.hahah!</p>
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		<title>By: AMBO</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2713</link>
		<dc:creator>AMBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! thanks sa inspirational thought kapatid. You're amazing! not video. lols</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! thanks sa inspirational thought kapatid. You&#8217;re amazing! not video. lols</p>
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		<title>By: mogLi</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator>mogLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mga pare! I never hesitated to post a differing view as I knew very well that Ambo and his readers are an open minded lot. It's nice that through this post, sensitive issues like this could be discussed from many different angles.

Idol ko rin kayo mga Bords! Pero hinde si April Boy. Hahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mga pare! I never hesitated to post a differing view as I knew very well that Ambo and his readers are an open minded lot. It&#8217;s nice that through this post, sensitive issues like this could be discussed from many different angles.</p>
<p>Idol ko rin kayo mga Bords! Pero hinde si April Boy. Hahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: AMBO</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>AMBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in! Idol ko na din si Mogli bukod ke April Boy! hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in! Idol ko na din si Mogli bukod ke April Boy! hehe</p>
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		<title>By: AMBO</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2688</link>
		<dc:creator>AMBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mogli, thank you for bringing up your opinion on this issue. Wow talaga. I agree when you said that we still have traces of our foraging past, i like your idea. It runs in our blood, it remind us the shadow of our culture. 

But i think the issue i want to clear, is the way she killed the bat. Kelangan ba talagang ihagis ng buhay sa apoy? Di kaya torture na yun? But Lenggai said, yun daw ang sabi ng mga katutubo. I don't get the point too. 


Raise the roof Mogli! Very interesting idea! Godspeed kapatid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mogli, thank you for bringing up your opinion on this issue. Wow talaga. I agree when you said that we still have traces of our foraging past, i like your idea. It runs in our blood, it remind us the shadow of our culture. </p>
<p>But i think the issue i want to clear, is the way she killed the bat. Kelangan ba talagang ihagis ng buhay sa apoy? Di kaya torture na yun? But Lenggai said, yun daw ang sabi ng mga katutubo. I don&#8217;t get the point too. </p>
<p>Raise the roof Mogli! Very interesting idea! Godspeed kapatid.</p>
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		<title>By: AMBO</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator>AMBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Sounds interesting. Let me search the idea why. Anyways, am happy to know you Lenggai. Hope to meet you soon and thanks for frequenting this blog. Godspeed kapatid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Sounds interesting. Let me search the idea why. Anyways, am happy to know you Lenggai. Hope to meet you soon and thanks for frequenting this blog. Godspeed kapatid.</p>
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		<title>By: bluepanjeet</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>bluepanjeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. I was reviewing when I read this email of mogli's comment. I was so impressed. I stand corrected on my first take on this issue. He enlightened me on this. He has a point... BIg Time. I never saw that coming.

Bords Mogli, You are now my Idol hehe. you have a point there really. I get it where you are coming from.

Mabuhay ka pareng Mogli..! Saludo ako!

Pax et Bonum.

&lt;em&gt;bluepanjeet's last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href='http://bluepanjeet.net/715/my-ronito-and-ronita/' rel="nofollow"&gt;My Ronito and Ronita&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. I was reviewing when I read this email of mogli&#8217;s comment. I was so impressed. I stand corrected on my first take on this issue. He enlightened me on this. He has a point&#8230; BIg Time. I never saw that coming.</p>
<p>Bords Mogli, You are now my Idol hehe. you have a point there really. I get it where you are coming from.</p>
<p>Mabuhay ka pareng Mogli..! Saludo ako!</p>
<p>Pax et Bonum.</p>
<p><em>bluepanjeet&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://bluepanjeet.net/715/my-ronito-and-ronita/' rel="nofollow">My Ronito and Ronita</a></p>
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		<title>By: mogLi</title>
		<link>http://pinoyambisyoso.com/animal-rights/the-bat-recipe/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>mogLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always have difficulties when it comes to criticizing certain practices of other groups of people. Our value systems have been virtually replaced by those in the west and therefore it is very easy for many of us to feel appalled by such apparent display of brutality. We need to bear in mind that we still have traces of our foraging past, especially in remote places where the idea of large-scale domestication of animals for consumption (thankfully) has not seen the light of day (yet). In fact it is not these acts (which are remnants of the hunting and foraging age) that cause widespread ecological imbalance. If you go to remote areas where people are still engaged in hunting/gathering activities for sustenance, they have an intrinsic sense of when to stop and let a certain species recover before they hunt for it again. They only take what they need for the day, in the process allowing nature to heal itself.   

It is the culture of over-consumption, the inevitable consequence of capitalistic tenets, which is the ultimate cause of ecological imbalances. Modern societies take a lot more from what is needed from the environment not just because they can but because high profit margins are equated with higher turnover of resources. I haven't heard of any tribe hunting/gathering any flora or fauna into extinction but I've read about massive extinction of local species due to mining, over-fishing and clearing of forests for agricultural or other industrial uses. I don't know how "civilized" people would react if someone could film how various species undergo prolonged suffering (much worse than being thrown in the fire alive) as a result of destruction of their habitats for commercial ends. So to cut it short, my take on this one is, pabayaan na lang kung paminsan-minsan lang naman. Pero kung maging talamak ito at maging street food na parang balot or one-day old, ibang usapan na yan. 

Now about the suffering of the bat, that's another issue, but then again it is basically our ethnocentrism that makes us feel sorry about it. From the perspective of an individual raised in a society where bats are likened to devils in hell, being burnt alive is perhaps the most apt way of killing the poor creature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always have difficulties when it comes to criticizing certain practices of other groups of people. Our value systems have been virtually replaced by those in the west and therefore it is very easy for many of us to feel appalled by such apparent display of brutality. We need to bear in mind that we still have traces of our foraging past, especially in remote places where the idea of large-scale domestication of animals for consumption (thankfully) has not seen the light of day (yet). In fact it is not these acts (which are remnants of the hunting and foraging age) that cause widespread ecological imbalance. If you go to remote areas where people are still engaged in hunting/gathering activities for sustenance, they have an intrinsic sense of when to stop and let a certain species recover before they hunt for it again. They only take what they need for the day, in the process allowing nature to heal itself.   </p>
<p>It is the culture of over-consumption, the inevitable consequence of capitalistic tenets, which is the ultimate cause of ecological imbalances. Modern societies take a lot more from what is needed from the environment not just because they can but because high profit margins are equated with higher turnover of resources. I haven&#8217;t heard of any tribe hunting/gathering any flora or fauna into extinction but I&#8217;ve read about massive extinction of local species due to mining, over-fishing and clearing of forests for agricultural or other industrial uses. I don&#8217;t know how &#8220;civilized&#8221; people would react if someone could film how various species undergo prolonged suffering (much worse than being thrown in the fire alive) as a result of destruction of their habitats for commercial ends. So to cut it short, my take on this one is, pabayaan na lang kung paminsan-minsan lang naman. Pero kung maging talamak ito at maging street food na parang balot or one-day old, ibang usapan na yan. </p>
<p>Now about the suffering of the bat, that&#8217;s another issue, but then again it is basically our ethnocentrism that makes us feel sorry about it. From the perspective of an individual raised in a society where bats are likened to devils in hell, being burnt alive is perhaps the most apt way of killing the poor creature.</p>
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